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Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: benjiwoodboat (IP Logged)
Date: January 14, 2010 09:02PM
Category: Engine and propeller

this looks like the one at Go2Marine...

[www.go2marine.com]

I ordered one too...

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Ben Eriksen
BCC #91 Elizabeth

Web Design | BCC Elizabeth

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: Dioscouri (IP Logged)
Date: January 14, 2010 09:25PM
Category: Engine and propeller

The Kobelt is certainly not cheap. For the bronze model, together with the cables, I believe I paid about $700 - pricey, but I agree with Rod's comments regarding installing the best available given that I plan on keeping my BCC for a long, long time.

Gary
Dioscouri (#064)

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: IDUNA (IP Logged)
Date: January 14, 2010 10:00PM
Category: Engine and propeller

The other solution is to use a simple double lever control - separate transmission and throttle. I greased the cables leading to IDUNA's engine controls. As we all know, the other key to keeping "stuff" running is maintenance and grease is our friend. Salt corrosion is our nemesis.

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: norris (IP Logged)
Date: January 14, 2010 11:12PM
Category: Engine and propeller

I have a Kobelt 2042 LW1. The brochure is here

[www.kobelt.com]

but note that for some unknown reason they don't list
the W option I have (and didn't when I got it either).

L = polished brass finish
W = removable handle
1 = neutral position is handle up

The brochure does not have a picture of the removable
handle. It is brass with a black knob at the end.
This option is good for when you are sailing and don't
want sheets to catch on it.

The unit is die cast silicon bronze with stainless steel hardware.
Kobelt calls it heavy duty. Indeed, it is massive overkill.
It didn't take too many experiences with an unreliable control
to convince me that this one was worth every penny. Which
was $484 Canadian when I bought it. Add tax and cables etc.

The reason to keep the boat after putting this in is so you
can enjoy it longer. It has great look and feel and works
great too. No regrets, I'd do it again in a flash.

- Norris, Bristol Cream

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: seacap (IP Logged)
Date: January 15, 2010 09:40AM
Category: Engine and propeller

Norris or anyone with the Kobalt. How was the install on it? Enough room inside the boat? Any problems or modifications at all? Seems like a fairly straight forward retrofit.

Gary Felton
S/V Angelsea
US Virgin Islands
[www.sailing-photography.net]

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: norris (IP Logged)
Date: January 17, 2010 06:59AM
Category: Engine and propeller

>How was the install on it? Enough room inside the boat? Any problems or >modifications at all? Seems like a fairly straight forward retrofit.

It was very straightforward for me. Mine is on the port side of the cockpit which has direct access to the engine. It was just a matter of cutting the hole and
putting the control into it. What more would you like to know? Any more
dimensions? Clearance inside is one thing, but you will want to make sure
you have clearance for the lever movement in the cockpit also.

- Norris


Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: benjiwoodboat (IP Logged)
Date: January 19, 2010 05:16PM
Category: Engine and propeller

Installed new Teleflex unit, working like a champ (like all things new usually do):

[farm3.static.flickr.com]
[farm3.static.flickr.com]
[farm3.static.flickr.com]


And for kicks, a pic of some new decoration painted by my friend Adam Smith:
[farm5.static.flickr.com]

[adamdsmith.com]


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Ben Eriksen
BCC #91 Elizabeth

Web Design | BCC Elizabeth

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: Anhinga (IP Logged)
Date: January 28, 2010 11:34PM
Category: Engine and propeller

Norris,
I also like the looks of the Kobelt controls for a long time. I was planning to buy model 2044 because according to the online catalogue was the only Kobelt control with removable handle.

Do you have a model 2042 or 2044 with removable handle (option W)?

If option W is also available for the 2042 I would prefer it because is smaller.

If you could confirm your model no. please let me know.

Regards,

Luis
Anhinga, hull 83

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: norris (IP Logged)
Date: January 29, 2010 01:18AM
Category: Engine and propeller

Hi Luis -

> I also like the looks of the Kobelt controls for a
> long time. I was planning to buy model 2044
> because according to the online catalogue was the
> only Kobelt control with removable handle.

The looks are even better in person.

> Do you have a model 2042 or 2044 with removable
> handle (option W)?

It's a 2042 with removable handle (option W). No doubts.
I have no idea why they don't list it.

If you have trouble ordering it let me know and I might
be able to get you a contact at Kobelt for this unit.

- Norris


Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: Mark Fuller (IP Logged)
Date: February 21, 2010 02:24AM
Category: Engine and propeller

Gary,

Which neutral position did you specify for the bronze Kobelt? Have you tried fitting it yet?

Mark

Xiphias

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: seacap (IP Logged)
Date: February 21, 2010 10:44AM
Category: Engine and propeller

Mark,
Haven't purchased mine yet. Waiting for biz to pick up.

Gary Felton
S/V Angelsea
US Virgin Islands
[www.sailing-photography.net]

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: Dioscouri (IP Logged)
Date: February 22, 2010 01:20AM
Category: Engine and propeller

I guess there are 2 Gary's here - I have purchased my Kobelt, but have not yet installed it. I am not sure what neutral position I specified, but I know I ordered the same unit that Norris has on Bristol Cream

Gary
Dioscouri (#064)

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: Mark Fuller (IP Logged)
Date: November 11, 2011 09:28AM
Category: Engine and propeller

Dioscouri Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I guess there are 2 Gary's here - I have purchased
> my Kobelt, but have not yet installed it. I am
> not sure what neutral position I specified, but I
> know I ordered the same unit that Norris has on
> Bristol Cream
>
> Gary
> Dioscouri (#064)


Hi Gary,

How did this work out? I am about to take the plunge and order a Kobelt.

Regards,

Mark

BCC Xiphias

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: ross8350 (IP Logged)
Date: November 15, 2011 12:31PM
Category: Engine and propeller

i am pleased with the kobelt shifter on little pearl. i choose the unit with no neutral safety switch. i wanted to avoid the situation of being unable to start my engine because of a faulty safety switch.

i sailed with a telefex control of my last boat for approx ten years. not a big fan of the removable handle-it detached on several occassions as i was docking.

fwiw- the heft and impressive contruction of the kobelt shifter was startling.

jo anne ross
s/v little pearl
falmouth cutter 26-7

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Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: Dioscouri (IP Logged)
Date: November 16, 2011 08:55PM
Category: Engine and propeller

I am very pleased with the Kobelt shift/control. It is very robust. I was surprised at the amount of corrosion on the Morse control that it replaced. I have no regrets about installing this unit.

Dioscouri (#064)
Gary

Re: Engine shift/control
Posted by: Mark Fuller (IP Logged)
Date: November 18, 2011 09:08AM
Category: Engine and propeller

Thanks Jo Anne and Gary. No better recomendation than from fellow owners and the bronze unit looks fabulous.

Mark

BCC Xiphias

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